we want a strong secretary of defense to be a player at the table of this administration. we know secretary kerr rewill be a formidable secretary of state because of his relationship to the president, his long record, and his performance in the senate. so i think he brings that background. also, if you just looked at the visual of the hearings, who was seated on either side of him? senator warner, senator nunn. how many people can command that kind of support? it's going to be necessary to get the hard work done in the future. >> yeah. and the battles that are coming up on both policy and bureaucracy are challenging. michael hastings, oali gharib, karon, thank you for peeg here. [ sniffs ] [ sneezes ] [ sniffles ] [ female announcer ] for everything your face has to face. face it with puffs facial tissues. puffs has air-fluffed pillows for 40% more cushiony thickness. face every day with puffs softness. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why sh